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		<title>By: howto web develop</title>
		<link>http://underpantsoffice.com/2008/10/24/how-to-learn-the-web-development-skills-that-will-keep-you-working/comment-page-1/#comment-6127</link>
		<dc:creator>howto web develop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Top 1 list of how to be a web developer:
1. Develop on the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Top 1 list of how to be a web developer:<br />
1. Develop on the web.</p>
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		<title>By: Free CSS Templates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free CSS Templates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  I have most of the skills.  The only one that I don&#039;t have and really need to get into is widget development.  Just never had the time for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  I have most of the skills.  The only one that I don&#8217;t have and really need to get into is widget development.  Just never had the time for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon:
Good point, and I don&#039;t disagree that there&#039;s much more to this stuff than just tweaking a script or two.  What I meant to suggest (and perhaps I didn&#039;t do it well) was that the &quot;price of admission,&quot; so to speak, is not high, and that there are enough resources available on the Web that a reasonably intelligent person with some aptitude, some drive and some direction can figure out the nuts and bolts of this stuff in time.  But I also agree that an eye for (and skills for) great design are often the key piece.  In my experience, it&#039;s a rare person who has both great technical skill and great design sense.  Thanks for your comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon:<br />
Good point, and I don&#8217;t disagree that there&#8217;s much more to this stuff than just tweaking a script or two.  What I meant to suggest (and perhaps I didn&#8217;t do it well) was that the &#8220;price of admission,&#8221; so to speak, is not high, and that there are enough resources available on the Web that a reasonably intelligent person with some aptitude, some drive and some direction can figure out the nuts and bolts of this stuff in time.  But I also agree that an eye for (and skills for) great design are often the key piece.  In my experience, it&#8217;s a rare person who has both great technical skill and great design sense.  Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some very good pointers on the top skills to have... but to say that all you require is that &quot;you know your way around PHP enough to make simple modifications to a script&quot; is at the very least over-optimistic and at worst just plain wrong.

There&#039;s a big difference between changing the counter on a site from saying &quot;visitors&quot; to &quot;visitors since this site opened&quot;... and being able to modify and work with one of the fantastically complex frameworks around. Programming knowledge, perhaps not. Architechture (and I don&#039;t mean being able to spot some fine Georgian pillars from 800 yards), design and good style are the important parts.

Anyone can throw a few bits of PHP together and get something that works quite nicely... I&#039;ve done it myself, I&#039;ve watched 12 year olds do it. A little PHP (or any other language) won&#039;t get anyone a long term job... there are far too many 15 year olds who can call themself proficient in PHP/ASP for that. It&#039;ll be decimated by script kiddies within hours of launch, but anyone can do it...

Which, at length, is where my point lies... a knowledge of the underlying systems is the important aspect. Whether you know PHP or not doesn&#039;t matter, it can be learned in under 2 months (again, I&#039;ve just watched 200 students learn java in 2 months... half with nothing more than a GCSE in ICT). Programming can be learned quickly, by anyone. Good design: that gets, and keeps you, a job.

Jesus, I didn&#039;t &#039;arf ramble there. I hope you get my point anyway, if you cut out the repetition and blab :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some very good pointers on the top skills to have&#8230; but to say that all you require is that &#8220;you know your way around PHP enough to make simple modifications to a script&#8221; is at the very least over-optimistic and at worst just plain wrong.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a big difference between changing the counter on a site from saying &#8220;visitors&#8221; to &#8220;visitors since this site opened&#8221;&#8230; and being able to modify and work with one of the fantastically complex frameworks around. Programming knowledge, perhaps not. Architechture (and I don&#8217;t mean being able to spot some fine Georgian pillars from 800 yards), design and good style are the important parts.</p>
<p>Anyone can throw a few bits of PHP together and get something that works quite nicely&#8230; I&#8217;ve done it myself, I&#8217;ve watched 12 year olds do it. A little PHP (or any other language) won&#8217;t get anyone a long term job&#8230; there are far too many 15 year olds who can call themself proficient in PHP/ASP for that. It&#8217;ll be decimated by script kiddies within hours of launch, but anyone can do it&#8230;</p>
<p>Which, at length, is where my point lies&#8230; a knowledge of the underlying systems is the important aspect. Whether you know PHP or not doesn&#8217;t matter, it can be learned in under 2 months (again, I&#8217;ve just watched 200 students learn java in 2 months&#8230; half with nothing more than a GCSE in ICT). Programming can be learned quickly, by anyone. Good design: that gets, and keeps you, a job.</p>
<p>Jesus, I didn&#8217;t &#8216;arf ramble there. I hope you get my point anyway, if you cut out the repetition and blab <img src='http://underpantsoffice.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pete:
Drupal is very cool, indeed.  Haven&#039;t spent enough time figuring out version 6 yet, but I installed it locally and like some of the user interface enhancements very much.  I manage a Drupal site now that is still on 5.3, so I need to get moving...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pete:<br />
Drupal is very cool, indeed.  Haven&#8217;t spent enough time figuring out version 6 yet, but I installed it locally and like some of the user interface enhancements very much.  I manage a Drupal site now that is still on 5.3, so I need to get moving&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pete White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learning Drupal was the best thing I ever did.</description>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ilovephotoblogs:  Thanks very much--glad it was helpful.  I need to spend more time learning new skills, too--so much to learn, and so little time, it seems...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ilovephotoblogs:  Thanks very much&#8211;glad it was helpful.  I need to spend more time learning new skills, too&#8211;so much to learn, and so little time, it seems&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ilovephotoblogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilovephotoblogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great resource. There are many new skills I would like to learn/develop to create a web presence which is unique from the crowd. I do have a far bit of programming experience, but need to focus my energies to become more adept with PHP, AJAX, and CSS. Thanks again for a well written post and helpful links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great resource. There are many new skills I would like to learn/develop to create a web presence which is unique from the crowd. I do have a far bit of programming experience, but need to focus my energies to become more adept with PHP, AJAX, and CSS. Thanks again for a well written post and helpful links.</p>
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		<title>By: How to learn the Web development skills that will keep you working&#8211;Part 2 &#124; Underpants Office</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to learn the Web development skills that will keep you working&#8211;Part 2 &#124; Underpants Office</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you missed the first part of this two-part article, go read it now&#8211;it contains a wealth of links that you don&#8217;t want to miss!  &#8211;Doug) Photo: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you missed the first part of this two-part article, go read it now&#8211;it contains a wealth of links that you don&#8217;t want to miss!  &#8211;Doug) Photo: [...]</p>
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